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Tuesday, January 4, 2011
2001: A Space Odyssey
Here is our our first science fiction book we will be reading, 2001: A Space Odyssey. If you get the sublime thought to read the entire section at once, and at your own pace, please stop and reflect often. The class will be moving at a slower pace and questioning: why is this science fiction, what is science fiction and what type of science fiction is this, what is technology, how is technology used in science fiction, how is technology important in both science fiction and in the real world, and how is this similar to Henry David Thoreau's Walden. Our paltry pace will also be important for taking the time to make predictions of the literature and analyze characters. For this first reading, The Road to Extinction, please post on the following questions: What occurs in the first chapter of 2001: A Space Odyssey? How is this life similar to Henry David Thoreau's Walden? How is it different? (Please use at least 2 quotes from the reading)
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This life is similar to David Thoreau's Wadlen life because they way the man-apes lived was what Walden wanted to go back to. He wanted to live in naturually and without technology like the man-apes. "About fifty of them occupied a group of caves.." 2001 Space Odyssey
ReplyDeleteIt was different from his life because they had no technology at all while Walden did. They had to live in caves and Walden didn't.
In the first chapter of 2001: A Space Odyssey we find out about the characters, setting and time the story takes place. So far we have met Moon-Watcher and learned that he lives in a prehistoric era. His daily life consists of looking for food, survivng preditiors and disease and watching over the other people he lives with.
ReplyDeleteHenry David Thoreau describes how he wants to get back to this type of life, without the hassel of technology. But the life described in 2001: A Space Odysses is almost unsurvivable.
In chapter one, we find an almost pre-historic world filled with ape-like creatures in a barren wasteland. Among these are Moon-Watcher, a slightly more evolved version of his kind. In this chapter, Moon-Walker carries the corpse of his dead father to the Hyenas to be eaten, and also, one of his own is attacked by a leopard, and he lives contently without technology. This is different from Thoreau's life, because Thoreau had at least minimal technology to survive, and soon went back to civilization, while the ape-creatures did not have this choice.("None of these were flourishing" 2001 space odessy) They are similar because, for a time, they both lived on nothing but the land.("Thoreau lived in a cabin the woods" Where I lived, and what I lived for.)
ReplyDeleteIn the first chapter of 2001 a space oddssey we meet moon watcher and about his tribe and where he lives and it seems that he is slowly eolving into becoming human.
ReplyDeleteIt is similar because much like henry david thorough they were feeding off the land and what they had although it wasnt as easy for them as david henry.
"so moon watcher aznd his companions....fought off pangs of hunger" -cpy document
It is different as henry david thorough walden because in this there is zero technology but in henry davids life he used technology against his will.
"He built a house but he used an axe...is that technology?" - Mr. Kats
By Juan Castillo
In the first chapter, we find our main character, Moon-Watcher the Man-Ape, contemplating himself. This is new to him, as he is more intelligent and human than the rest of his species. (They were always there, but that did not make it any less annoying.). He displays the ability to think.
ReplyDeleteWhat occurs in the first chapter of 2001: A Space Odyssey is the everyday life of Moon-Watcher and his fellow cavemen and the slow starvation of their tribe. This is similar to Henry David Thoreau's Walden as they both involve survival in the wild and survival of the fittest. It was different however as Henry had much more knowledge and memory than Moon-Watcher which gave him an intelligence advantage. Moon-Watcher was "incapable of worrying about more than one thing at a time." and "He never thought of his father again." which proves of Henry's superiority (From 2001: a Space Odyssey, Chapter One).
ReplyDeleteIn the first chapter, we follow Moon-watcher and his living enviornment. It was pretty harsh and living conditions weren't good at all. The text said, "In this barren and desiccated land, only the small or the swift or the fierce could flourish, or even hope to survive." This is similar the "Walden", because they both had difficult times. It is different, because in Walden, there was more technology, and people didn't fight for survival. The text said, "..he lacked the energy even to cuff her for her presumotion.
ReplyDeleteIn the first chapter of 2001: A Space Odyssey, we met what I believe to be our main character, Moon-Watcher. We were told that the setting was in Africa and that Moon-Watcher lives in a cave. His newly recognized father has just died. Moon-Watcher had a confrentation with another "group" but neither of them had the energy to do more than snarle. We found out that these characters were fighting for their survival and that what they did most of the day and what was their main focus was finding food to eat. They didn't really care that much about each other their most important priority was surviving. Moon-watcher seems to be different from the rest at this time he has hints of intelligence and he is a thinker. I predict that moon-Watcher will be the character that survives and leads to the rest of the evolving of human beings.
ReplyDelete"The harsh logic of survival ruled out such fantisies (thought of helphing)" 2001: A Space Odyssey Chapter 1 A Road to Extnction.
"Sometimes he watched the valley, and sometimes he watched the Moon" 2001: A Space Odyssey.
2001: A Space Odyssey is similar to Walden because in Walden he states "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life." He went to live it the woods and live simply and just use the basic needs of life food, water and shelter. That is Moon-Watcher's goal to his motivation everyday is food, water and shelter. 2001: A Space Odyssey is still in some ways different from Walden. In Walden this simple way of life is thought of to be good and easy, to live with no technology and simply off of the basic gifts of the Earth. In 2001: A Space Odyssey that is not the case. It is hard for these creatures to survive. the hassle of finding food and water everyday is so challenging and takes so much energy, that if we did indeed have technonlgy at this time it would make life easier.
"The battle for existence had reached a new climax of ferocity" 2001: A Space Odyssey Chapter 1 The Road to extinction.
"He was now as near content as he was ever likely be; for though he was still hungry" 2001: A Space Odyssey Chapter 1 The Road to Extinction.
In chapter 1 of "2001: A Space Odyssey", we followed Moon-Watcher, an ape-man who seems to be more evolved then his fellow ape-men. In the very beginning, Moon-Watcher is carrying his father's dead corpse away to be eaten by hyenas. The story said, "He never thought of his father again." ("2001: A Space Odyssey") This can only mean that the real priority and state of mine for these creatures is to just focus on survival. The ape-men were always hungry, "It was always hungry, and now it was starving". ("2001: A Space Odyssey") Later, Moon-Watcher lied, trying to go to sleep, hearing one of his companions being eaten by hyenas, but he never thought of helping. He was too focused on his own survival.
ReplyDeleteIn the first chapter of 2001: A Space Odyssey the book started with a brief description of the desiccated land that the man-apes and "others" lived on. It also spoke of the extinct that was slowly but surely coming there way.We were introduced to the main chapter Moon Watcher and found out that he was one of the most evolved of his people.
ReplyDelete"Among his kind Moon-Watcher was almost a giant. he was nearly five feet high, and though badly undernourished weight hundred pounds."
Source: 2001:Space Odyssey Chapter 1 Road to Extinction
How the life was different from that of Henry David Thoreau's Walden is in Walden Henry Thoreau spoke of how technology was merely a distraction from living, where as in 2001:The Space Odyssey in felt like in the prehistoric era that Moon Watch lived in he would do anything for technology that would make his hunting and forgetting easier.
"In those dark, deep-set eyes was a dawning awareness-- the first intimations of a intelligence that could not possibly fulfill it- self for ages yet, and might soon be extinguished forever"
Source:2001: A Space Odyssesy
How the life is similar to that in Walden is in both we saw in inside the head of two men and both although not bluntly said wanted what the other had.This sends a message to me that the grass is not always greener on the other side.
In Chapter 1 of 2001: A Space Odyssey, we are introduced to the small race of "man-apes" living on the equator in Africa in what seems to be prehistoric times. The leader appears to be one called Moon-Watcher, he is the largest and most human-like of the species. He, unlike the others, shows the ability to think and contemplate like a human "In those dark, deep-set eyes was a dawning awareness-- the first intimations of a intelligence that could not possibly fulfill it- self for ages yet, and might soon be extinguished forever" (2001: A Space Odyssey) They struggle from day to day just to survive, as shown by the line
ReplyDeleteTheir main focus was getting food in order to live another day and perhaps allow the elderly or the children food. Moon-Watcher carried the corpse of his father to be buried and then joined his fellow tribe members at a stream. Across the water was a group known as "the others", whom they yelled and screamed at as opposed to fighting.
This is a similar life to the one lead in Thoreau's "Walden", but the desperation for food and other necessities is far more prevalent. While Thoreau had a small house and an axe, along with developed human intelligence, the man-apes of "2001: A Space Odyssey" struggled daily to provide for themselves. "He was now as near content as he was ever likely be; for though he was still hungry" (2001: A Space Odyssey)
In the first chapter we are introduced to Moonwalker- a highly evolved man-ape who lives in what is now modern day Africa. We learn about his daily life without technology or advanced social behaviors and feelings.
ReplyDeleteIn the first chapter of '2001: A Space Odyssey', life is similar for Moonwalker and HDT in 'Walden' in the way that they are living without modern technology and totally content without it. "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life."-HDT, Walden
Life is different in these two stories because while there is minimal modern day technology, HDT had basic necessary resources while M.W. was literally starving to death. "He was now as near content as he was ever likely be; for though he was still hungry" -Moonwalker in 2001: A Space Odyssey
In 2001 A Space Oddysey we see a man ape tribe of very primate like indiviuals. They were shown to be less intelligent than todays humans.As the author of the novel states, "snarling and threatining was a much more efficient way of asserting their point." It is simalar to Walden because they are living in a world with little to no technology. Thoreau belives that technology is a step in the wrong direction therefore Moonwalkers life might be ideal. However because the man-apes are fighting against hunger constantly Thoreau would probably be in favor of some technology. "He was now as near content as he was ever likley to be;for though he was still hungry"-2001 Space Oddyssey. This shows just how badly attaining a small amount of food is for the man apes. Not a perfect world at all...
ReplyDeletein the first chapter of 2001: A Space Oddyssey we are introduced to the character Moonwalker. He is a species of man apes. They have no feelings and rarely use violence. This statement proves my point. "snarling and threatining was a much more efficient way of asserting their point." This story is similiar to Walden because Thorea opposes technology and in 2001 A Space Oddyssey the cave men live without technology. "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life." This statement backs up Thoreau's opinion to live without technology.
ReplyDeleteIn the first chapter we are introduced to a human-ape named Moon Watcher who lives during uncertain times in Africa. He is always faced with survival issues and has no other concerns. Life is alike Henry David Thoreau's Walden because he always agreed with living for the essentials in life to notice the beauty of things without technology which is shown in 2001 "Sometimes he watched the valley, and sometimes he watched the moon, but he always listenend." It differs because in Thoreau's case, he is not fighting to survive everyday and doesn't have to always worry about food. "It was always hungry, now it was starving."
ReplyDeleteWhat happened in the first chapter was that we were introduced to moon watcher who seems to be a man ape and the main character of the story he lives in a cave with others "About fifty of them occupied a group of caves.." and in the land food was scarce "It was always hungry, now it was starving."
ReplyDeleteThis is related to walden because the people are are living simple lives with no complications living off the land
In the first chapter we are introduced to Moon watcher a man ape who is different from all the rest. "The man apes of the veldt were none of these things, and they were not flourishing, indeed, they were already far down the road to extinction." Moon Watcher and his tribe were enemies with "the others" a tribe that lived close to them, whom shared the same stream with them." Moon Watcher looked across the valley to see if the Others were in sight, but there was no trace of them." The first chapter is related to Henry David's Walden because the man apes lived a simple life filled with only the necessities of life.
ReplyDeletein the first chapter, we are introduced to the main character moon watcher; a man-ape thats more evolved than the rest of the man apes. moon watchers tibe was in starvation, they were enemys with another tribe that they share a stream with. this chapter relates to henry davids walden because both relate to the suvival in the wildderness.the two are different because henry david had tools to make survival more manageable were moon watcher dosent.
ReplyDeletethe first chapter of the story,the man-ape Moon-Watcher tell us how his tribe is in starvation and are fighting for their lives. The story relates to Henry David Thoreau because he had to survive in the woods with no modern technology and the man apes lived.Sometimes he watched the valley, and sometimes he watched the moon, but he always listenend." The stories differ because the man-apes are starving."It was always hungry, and now it was starving".Henry David Thoreau dont have to worry about food.
ReplyDeleteIn the first chapter we are introduced to the setting, the situation and the protagonist. The setting is in Pre-historic times, the situation is that man-apes are becoming extinct because of hunger and the protaginist is a man-ape called Moon-Watcher. "It was always hungry, and now it was starving. (2001:A Space Oddesy)
ReplyDeleteThoreau's life had a similarity with the man-apes when he went to live in the woods. He wanted to live without the help of technology and live life to the fullest. "I did not wish to live what was not life, living is so dear" (Where I Lived, and What I Lived For).
But it was also different because he did have some simple technolgy that helped him with everyday tasks thta he probably didn't notice. Something like a house or a bed or even a bathroom. The man-apes certainly didn't have those things with them.